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The P-p-penguin Thread

Going particularly far back in the archive, we find, just slightly off-topic (about 16,000 km) ....

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From: James Cracknell (james@-iceni.prestel.co.uk)
Subject:P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/02/27 

Found this on alt.penguin-fetish.recovery......

PRACTITIONERS of the oldest profession have been found at work on the 
icy shores of Antarctica plying their trade in a dress of black and white
feathers - they are penguin prostitutes.

The first recorded examples of bird prostitution have been observed in
colonies of Adelie penguins on Ross Island, about 800 miles from the
South Pole, by Dr Fiona Hunter of Cambridge University and Dr Lloyd
Davis of the University of Otago, supported by the New Zealand
Antarctic Programme.

They observed how male Adelies pay for sexual favours with rocks and
stones, a limited resource that can prove crucial for the survival of
broods. In no other bird have such extra-marital exchanges been
recorded, said Dr Hunter, a post-doctoral researcher who has made annual 
visits to Antarctica to study their sex life.

She described how, at the start of the breeding season, the penguins
hunt for stones. Once all the loose rocks have been collected, they attempt
To peck them out of the frozen mud to construct a nest platform, crucial to
keep eggs high and dry above mud and chilly melt water.

Stones are so valuable that they will steal them from each other, though
they risk being attacked by the owners of the hard currency. In the
journal Auk, Drs Hunter and Davis describe how females have developed
another strategy: they lure nearby male penguins for sex in exchange for
the rocks. "Females have figured out that one way to steal the stones
without being attacked is to swap copulations for them," said Dr Hunter.

They slip away from their partner and wander over to the nest of an
unpaired male. Standard courtship follows, with a dip of the head and a
coy look from the corner of her eye. If he shows interest, she will lie
prone which, in the language of penguin love, is an invitation to mate
or carry out what the scientists call "extra-pair copulation".

Once mating is over, the female picks up her payment, a stone, and
carries it to her nesting platform. Sometimes their customers are so
satisfied that the females can return for second helpings of stones,
without having to offer more sex. Other females found that a little 
courtship was enough to persuade a male to allow them to play with a 
rock, then cart it away. One especially teasing female managed to collect 
62 stones this way, said Dr Hunter. "The males were probably duped into 
thinking that she was a possible partner."

The zoologists are now analysing the benefits of penguin whoredom. While
the male may lose some of his rocks, he gains the possibility of fathering
extra chicks. The benefits to the females are less clear. "I don't
think that she is just after his stones," said Dr Hunter. "Perhaps the
female mates with an extra male for another reason, say to increase the
quality or genetic variability of her offspring. This seems reasonable
given that not all males actually father the chicks they help to rear."

Another reason for seeking male company could be to form a relationship
with a potential mate for the next season if her partner dies. The team
is now planning another trip to the frozen continent to uncover more
details of the penguin's complicated love life.


From: Penny May (xoe95@dial.pipex.com)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

Puts a whole new slant on "pick up a penguin"!
Penny


From: Martin Collinson (Martin.Collinson@ed.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/02/27 

James Cracknell wrote:
> Once mating is over, the female picks up her payment, a stone, and
> carries it to her nesting platform.... 

I don't know whether to be shocked because it happens, or to be 
shocked because the price is so low.  The female penguins need a 
business manager!

Martin


From: Malcolm Ogilvie (MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/02/27 

In article <34F6E29A.6D46@ed.ac.uk>, Martin Collinson writes
>I don't know whether to be shocked because it happens, or to be 
>shocked because the price is so low.  The female penguins need a 
>business manager!

I believe that the technical term is a "pimp" ;-))

Malcolm


From: James Cracknell (james@-iceni.prestel.co.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/02/27 

Martin Collinson wrote in message <34F6E29A.6D46@ed.ac.uk>...
>I don't know whether to be shocked because it happens, or to be
>shocked because the price is so low.

Could you divulge how you are aware of the current pricing structure
amongst P-p-prostitutes....I am sure the NG would be most entertained!


From: Arnold-Layne@rocketmail.com (Arnold-Layne@rocketmail.com)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/02/28 

In article <34F6E29A.6D46@ed.ac.uk> Martin.Collinson@ed.ac.uk wrote:
> ...snip The female penguins need a business manager!

'Hello little penguin, would you like a chocolate bar ?'
'No, give us a rock'

Tony


From: Martin Collinson (Martin.Collinson@ed.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

James Cracknell wrote:

> Could you divulge how you are aware of the current pricing structure
> amongst P-p-prostitutes....I am sure the NG would be most entertained!

My knowledge about prostitutes is limited to what I have accidently 
seen on Leith Walk on a Friday night.  But I do have first hand 
knowledge of penguins, and the ones in Edinburgh don't even get out of 
bed for anything less than a fish-paste sandwich.  

Martin


From: Peter Headland (Peter_Headland@matrixlk.demon.co.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

Surely that should be "don't get *into* bed for anything less"?


From: Malcolm Ogilvie (MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

In article <34FA90FF.1BF8@ed.ac.uk>, Martin Collinson writes
>My knowledge about prostitutes is limited to what I have accidently 
>seen on Leith Walk on a Friday night.  But I do have first hand 
>knowledge of penguins, and the ones in Edinburgh don't even get out of 
>bed for anything less than a fish-paste sandwich.  

And what were you doing "accidentally" on Leith Walk on "a Friday
night"?

You are sinking deeper into the mire ;-))

Malcolm
 

From: Phil Pinel (philTURNTHISINTOADOTpinel@iclnet.co.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

Malcolm Ogilvie wrote in message ...
>And what were you doing "accidentally" on Leith Walk on "a Friday
>night"?
>
>You are sinking deeper into the mire ;-))

Not to mention admitting to propositioning Penguins with fish-paste
sandwiches ;)

Phil


From: Martin Collinson (Martin.Collinson@ed.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

Phil Pinel wrote:
> 
> Malcolm Ogilvie wrote in message ...
> >And what were you doing "accidentally" on Leith Walk on "a Friday
> >night"?
> >
> >You are sinking deeper into the mire ;-))
> 
> Not to mention admitting to propositioning Penguins with fish-paste
> sandwiches ;)
> 

Aaargh.  All you fiendish people are deliberately misinterpreting what 
I say! As I explained to the officer at the time, the incident at 
Leith Walk on Friday night involving me, the penguin and the 
fish-paste sandwich was: 
a) entirely unavoidable and
b) perfectly innocent.

The penguin in question is a close friend of the family, and indeed 
has been working as my p-p-p-private secretary for a number of months.  
My wife is perfectly aware of our friendship, and is standing by me 
at this difficult time.  

I hope that clears things up.  
Martin


From: Jill Grey (pl83@dial.pipex.com)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

Martin Collinson wrote:

> 
> The penguin in question is a close friend of the family, and indeed
> has been working as my p-p-p-private secretary for a number of months.
> My wife is perfectly aware of our friendship, and is standing by me
> at this difficult time....

Ah, her name's Hilary then...

J


From: Malcolm Ogilvie (MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

In article <34FACFDA.2B7B@ed.ac.uk>, Martin Collinson writes
>The penguin in question is a close friend of the family, and indeed 
>has been working as my p-p-p-private secretary for a number of months.  
>My wife is perfectly aware of our friendship, and is standing by me 
>at this difficult time.  
>
>I hope that clears things up.  

Yes, of course. You can expect no more comment at all on this
unfortunate affair......until next Sunday's News of the World, that is.

Malcolm


From: Penny May (xoe95@dial.pipex.com)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/02 

> The penguin in question is a close friend of the family, and indeed 
> has been working as my p-p-p-private secretary for a number of months.  
> My wife is perfectly aware of our friendship, and is standing by me 
> at this difficult time.  

Are you going to resign in order to spend more time with your family?


From: Martin Collinson (Martin.Collinson@ed.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: P-p-p-penguin P-p-prostitutes 
Date: 1998/03/03 

Penny May wrote:
> 
> Are you going to resign in order to spend more time with your family?

Funnily enough, I AM leaving my job at the vet school.  But it had 
nothing to do with the loss of trust between me and the penguins.

Martin
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